Curse

drunknzelda · Jul 30, 2009, 05:00 PM // 17:00

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Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

OF is not really comparable to SF. You need at least 6 bar spots to deal with physicals and /or interrupts

And that's why I suggested it, as SF + Essence leaves you with 6 open spots, which you can fill with any variety of spells when you use a zealous scythe for energy management. As OF ele, you move slower, you are vulnerable to any physical damage, interrupts the lot, this overall makes SC's slower. And I doubt you can still Speedclear if SF gets nerfed as there is no way you can finish anywhere near the times you get with SF, and it's not called a Speedclear when run-times get doubled or more.

The Little Viking · Jul 30, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14

The majority of the people who are not willing to find a profession they can actually play on and earn some money or get in on the speed clears (which in my opinion are just no fun) or find a way to make 10s of 1000s of K in an hour will not be happy until we are all running around in our underwear carrying feathers into battle with as weapons with absolutely no skills to cast.
Let the speed clear people play the game the way they want, let the farmers of other items play the game the way they want, let the PvErs play the game the way they want, and let the PvPers play the game the way they want. In all actuality, NONE of the above are breaking any rules, none of the above are hurting YOU personally, and none of the above are ruining anything for anyone else. So you cant get in a group for UW, get a guild group together and go the slow way, and let the rest of us enjoy the game the way we want to play. And dont give me this "they are ruining the economy" crap. They are not hurting it any more then Joe down the road is ruining the economy by hoarding his steel till the price goes up. Besides, lets face it, Rl or in game the economy is what it is. deal with it and move on.

Xanthe Dashka · Jul 30, 2009, 05:21 PM // 17:21

SC guilds are srs bsns.
It's the last thing I would care about.

And the answer is obvious... the next build allready exsists but isn't used because it takes 1 minute longer to clear...

toocooltang · Jul 30, 2009, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

They will continue to speed clear. I can't remember who it was, but I know that a larger SC guild recently SC'd Urgoz's with no PvE skills, no shadow form, and no RoJ.......so these guys will always be able to do this shit.

Screen shot or it didnt happen.

The advantage of shadowform when combined with cons is actually bar compression. With shadow form and cons you only need 2 skills which leaves you 6 others for damage dealing. In the old days of guildwars you often needed 2 or more players dedicated to defense (OF/bond/heal). This really limited teams and options for damage dealing.

About nerfs- It only affects the lower end of the community really. Ursan for exampled allowed anyone with enough time to grind out max norn the ablitily to join groups. Now with the shadowform and cry way groups tactics have become much more important but there is still enough room for error that most pug groups can struggle through the elite areas. The things that should actually be nerfed is stoneflesh aura and 600/smites because this would stop alot of the current "speed clears"

The guild wars economy is ruined because its a game! In real life there should be a finite money supply, meaning there is a limit to the amount of money in the world. In guild wars this is not true because you always have people killing things. When you kill things in guild wars they drop more loot (aka money) so effectivly in guildwars you have an infinite money supply which leads to deflation.

Karate Jesus · Jul 30, 2009, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by toocooltang

Screen shot or it didnt happen.

Ask Athrun Feya/Laura for one. She's more of a SC aficionado than I am. If she doesn't have one, I'll ask a couple of guys and get the pic.

czfeng · Jul 30, 2009, 06:47 PM // 18:47

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Originally Posted by Schnellburg

Agreed there was a German guild that did DoA and broke icU's record by a min or 2 with just a single Obby Flesh tank.

haha what? -

Max Maulwurf · Jul 30, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00

There was one german guild, who did 51 min with single OF-tank, and another who played with one single SF-tank and was 1 min faster than icU's 42-record. I think icU was faster again kinda next run. ^^

Schnellburg · Jul 30, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Don't worry Psy yall rebroke their record by a few mins, so you can go back to into retirement. And it was a single OF tank that did it a min faster, i actually talked to him bout it, but that was like a while back.